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Marathon Supreme HS 382
Exceptional. Outstanding. The best. A touring tire that can do everything. That was the goal
of our development team. For 2009 we have completely revised our : HD Ceramic Guard, Triple
Nano Compound, LiteSkin side wall. The Marathon Supreme is now even lighter and faster.
Puncture resistance has also been improved and its grip on wet roads remains outstanding!
Note: Not suitable for use with a sidewall dynamo.
Folding Bead
| Art.No. | ETRTO | Size | Technology | Colour | Compound | PSI | Weight | EPI | Load | Tube | Price | Add |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 11613382 | 42-406 | 20 x 1.60 | HD Ceramic | Reflex | Triple Nano | 50-85 | 325 g | 67 | 80 kg | 7, 7C | 69.95 | Out |
| 11630382 | 42-559 | 26 x 1.60 | HD Ceramic | Reflex | Triple Nano | 50-85 | 440 g | 67 | 110 kg | 13, 14, 14A | 69.95 | Out |
| 11632483 | 50-559 | 26 x 2.00 | HD Ceramic | Reflex | Triple Nano | 30-70 | 565 g | 67 | 140 kg | 13, 14, 14A | 69.95 | Add |
| 11647483 | 32-622 | 700 x 32C | HD Ceramic | Reflex | Triple Nano | 55-95 | 375 g | 67 | 100 kg | 16, 17 | 69.95 | Add |
| 11649484 | 37-622 | 700 x 35C | HD Ceramic | Reflex | Triple Nano | 50-85 | 440 g | 67 | 110 kg | 17 | 69.95 | Add |
| 11650483 | 42-622 | 700 x 40C | HD Ceramic | Reflex | Triple Nano | 50-85 | 495 g | 67 | 130 kg | 19 | 69.95 | Out |
| 11652483 | 50-622 | 29 x 2.00 | HD Ceramic | Reflex | Triple Nano | 30-70 | 645 g | 67 | 150 kg | 19 | 69.95 | Add |
Wire Bead
| Art.No. | ETRTO | Size | Technology | Colour | Compound | PSI | Weight | EPI | Load | Tube | Price | Add |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 11132383 | 50-559 | 26 x 2.00 | HD Ceramic | Reflex | Triple Nano | 30-70 | 635 g | 67 | 140 kg | 13, 14, 14A | 66.05 | Add |
| 11149384 | 37-622 | 700 x 35C | HD Ceramic | Reflex | Triple Nano | 50-85 | 520 g | 67 | 115 kg | 17, 18 | 66.05 | Add |
| 11150383 | 42-622 | 700 x 40C | HD Ceramic | Reflex | Triple Nano | 50-85 | 570 g | 67 | 130 kg | 17, 18, 19 | 66.05 | Add |
Another 26x1.6 request
My touring bike is being built up and I would also like to know when the 26x1.6 size would be available.
26x1.60 Availability
The Marathon Supreme 26 x 1.60 size should be arriving at our warehouse in about 5 weeks, beginning of April.
Thanks,
Team Schwalbe
26x1.6 availability
Any idea when 26 x 1.6 will be available again?
Folding or Wire?
Dear Schwalbe
What do you regard as the relevant differences between folding and wire? Also, have you discontinued 700 x 32?
Thanks.
Steve
will it fit
Will a 20X1.6 marathon supreme fit my front wheel of my Gold Rush-it is 20 by 1.35 (406 mm)
Marathon Supreme "Load"
Schwalbe team:
Could you please explain “Load” in your tables.
I weigh 80kgs and my bicycle 15kgs. The “Load” for 700 x 32 tires is 100 kgs.
Does that mean that if I fit a set of Supremes, you recommend that I don’t carry more than 5kgs of luggage?
Load Rating
Load: Maximum Load in kilograms per tire at maximum pressure.
This means the Marathon Supreme 700 x 32C tire can handle a load of 100 kgs (220 lbs) per tire, when inflated to maximum pressure of 95 PSI. With two 700 x 32C Marathon Supreme tires inflated to 95 PSI, the tires (bike) can handle a load of 200 kgs (440 lbs)
Thanks,
Team Schwalbe
Load Rating
This is very helpful information. Previously, I was under the impression that the load rating was for both tires. I stand happily corrected. Thank you!
16" Oh please Oh please
There have to be a fair number of Catrike 700 riders out there who would love to see these in the 16” 349mm size. I’d be happy with 1 3/8, but anything between 1 and 1.5 would do. Take the leap of faith! They will sell!
I’m a big fan of the marathon plus, but they are just too slow, so I’m currently using (also frequently fixing and replacing) greenspeed scorchers. Please please please add this size to your line.
No regrets!
I bought a set this past spring and was impressed. Then my bike was stolen (they must have loved the tires too)! When I replaced the bike I also built a pair of wheels, and… definitely fit them with Marathon Supremes. So far this whole year I have not had a single flat with these tires. With my previous tires (Avocet FasGrip Kevlar) I went through at least a couple of patch kits per year. Enough to have established a “policy” of throwing away tubes after they’d been patched 5 times!!!
These tires wear well, and do a much better job in places where sand or gravel has spilled onto the roadway (we get that a lot around here). I also travel along two trails where goathead thorns were a frequent cause of flats before. The reflective sidewalls are brilliant. The only downside at all is a slightly higher rolling resistance than what I had before. Probably doesn’t make more than a minute’s difference on my 2-hour ride. A single flat puts me at least 15 minutes behind, not to mention the hassle. It’s a no-brainer and I wish I would have run across these sooner!!
Also check out their rim strips. Never thought I’d say goodbye to Velox, but the Schwalbe rim strips are fantastic. Say goodbye to Sticky, Dirty, and Goopy!
Marathon Supreme vs the armadillo
Any one ever compare the two? I’ve been rolling on my armys for a year now, about 600 miles a month, no flats, but it’s time to replace them, the rubber is about gone. I love the armadillo but I’m curious about these new tires. I hear they’re a little bit faster, a little bit smoother.
Hey Schwalbe, if you can set me up with a pair of these supremes for less then the armys, I would gladly write a review on my findings.
Schwalbes By a long shot
I used to ride Armadillos. They are great for flats, but they ride like they are made out of wood. The Marathon Supremes are the perfect balance.
Marathon Supreme vs the Armadillo
I have ridden both and definitely prefer the Marathon Supremes. All subjective of course but they feel smoother, faster and just seem to roll better. Both tires served me well in preventing flats on my city commuting.
Supremathon vs. Nimbydillo
I bought a set of 40-559 Marathon Supremes to replace my 38-559 Nimbydillos. I use this particular bike on streets and trails, about half of which are paved. The rest range from crushed stone to a couple of ruts down a packed dirt surface with grass growing on top. I tried a pair of Marathon Supremes, then realized my Nimbys weren’t really worn out yet, then had to throw out one of the Nimbys when gashes from previous flats started growing, i. e. the cords were starting to let go. So right now I have the Supreme on the rear and what’s left of a Nimby on the front.
The Schwalbes have superior construction, hands down. They give me the impression that they can handle long distances and rough terrain and most road obstacles without weighing down the bike. They are significantly lighter than the Special-Eds. They seat just fine the first time and sit round when inflated. I get the unmistakable impression that the Schwalbes are made with tighter quality control using better materials. The Specials got the job done the majority of the time, but they were a sort of brute force solution that I still managed to flat on. The big difference between the two is how they handle bumps. Kind of like Michelins for a car, the Schwalbes’ sidewalls are more pliant and the tires soak up bumps like my favorite tree roots underneath paved paths. Even near maximum pressure, the Schwalbes behave like an additional suspension component where the Special Zeds passed everything along to the rims, frame, and eventually the rider. This caught me by surprise, and I love it. Someone designed the Marathon to be supple over bumps but still give excellent feedback. This explains the price differential, which I’m willing to pay because someone at Schwalbe paid attention to details.
The Marathons are noticeably wider than the Nimbys, which alters how my bike handles when leaning into a curve. Since they aren’t worn out yet, they don’t have a worn-down flat section in the middle of the tread either. They’re also 2 mm wider by the size but they feel wider than that. Either Schwalbe rounded down or Special Ed rounded up on their tire widths (mounted on either a 17C or 27C rim, don’t ask) because the Marathons are wider.
That being said, they grip better in corners, better on wet surfaces, better on loose surfaces, and much better on wet grass. Part of that is due to the wider width, and the rest is from the Schwalbe multi-compound rubber. I’m just starting to get a feel for the Marathon on wet leaves on pavement, but so far no alarms and no surprises.
The Schwalbes also fold, so I can bring a spare tire along in case I meet something really nasty on a very long trip. Having people occasionally ask why you have a folded tire in one of your water bottle cages beats walking home, especially on the long rides I take.
I have about 800 miles on one Marathon. I have had a puncture, but any tire is going to go flat when the front wheel kicks up a nail in the dark and the rear tire hits the point of the nail on its way by. This puncture was also partly on the sidewall where the protective belt may not lie. Of course it was in the dark in the rain, but as I said, any tire is going to be penetrated by something like that. Flats happen, I’ve resigned to believe. I can’t comment on whether or not the Schwalbes are more flat-resistant because I don’t make that call until a couple thousand miles roll by.
The tire rolls smoothly except at very low speeds when it’s brand new. After a while you start to wear the edges of the tread lines down. I can’t tell there is any profile to the tread unless I’m under five miles per hour. On this type of tire (non-MTB) tread patterns are decorative anyway. I call this the Star Trek tread pattern.
In the “dark side of hell and back” category, the tires have maintained their composure on dry pavement, sandy pavement, wet pavement, wet concrete, saturated stone dust, wet grass (where the Nimbys would give up in a hurry, suddenly), dry grass, packed dirt, city streets, fine and course crushed stone, and occasional railroad tracks. I’m still adjusting to how they grip and have yet to try them on slushy ice, but so far they work very well over a very broad range of conditions.
For a while I thought the width was slowing me down, but it was psychosomatic. They’re just as fast on pavement and maybe a little quicker on unpaved trails because they are just a tad wider. I was thinking about slicks, but they’d look ridiculous on a mountain-turned-general-purpose-commuter and pinch flats may become a problem below 36C. I refuse to take a side on the “wider tires are more efficient” battle. The difference is that the bike leans into corners differently, and since you steer by leaning, I need to adjust to a wider tire crown and need to start leaning a little more a little earlier.
And now that it’s November, the reflective sidewalls help. I typically get home right around dusk or up to half an hour after sunset where you need all the visibility you can get.
A welterweight friend of mine had problems with the rubber on his Nimbys separating from the flat protection liner when the tires were almost worn out- the rubber would start flaking off the tire. That has not happened with my Supremes, and they actually specify a weight limit. Wow, facts.
Outstanding
I put these on my commuter/touring bike in the 622-32 size.
They are fast, and grip is outstanding, even in a downpour!
I’ll write another review later when I can comment on their long-term durability, but I can confidently say my old Contis would have pinch flatted in a couple situations these just rolled on through…
And if anyone is wondering about fit issues and deciding what size to get, my frame recommends a maximum width of 32, noting that some brands of 32s might not fit. Well, these did. I had to trim my fenders slightly, but I blame the SKS fender mounts and not the tire sizing. These 32s fit great on Velocity 19mm wide rims.
-John
Comparison with Marathon Slick
How do Marathon Supreme tires compare with the Marathon Slick in terms of speed and durability ?
Comparison with Marathon Slick
marathon slicks are definitely faster than supremes; durability is on a similar level, but - wearing down - the flat-frequency of the M.slicks increases in comparison with the supremes, which are VERY solid!
Great tire for my commuter/short route bike
I changed my Marathon Pluses (which have ~4000 miles on them and still plenty of life left, all these miles with NO flats) for Marathon Supremes. I was seeking lower rolling resistance, better handling, and less weight. The tires have met my expectations.
These tires are fast, light, and handle great. The bike feels like a new machine - in fact, I am now looking for a larger front chainwheel to keep up with the increase in speed.
I have ridden about 300 miles on them, on my normal commutes, with no flats (I keep them at 100 psi). There has not been enough rain yet this summer to assess their wet grip, but I remain optimistic as the rubber compound seems to have great traction.
They are expensive, but I have not begrudged the expense. They were not at all difficult to mount—take your time, start opposite the valve stem, and just work the last part of the bead on with your thumbs.
I’m very glad to have these tires.
Zach, Portland, Or
Size
Please make this tire in a 16 x 1.1 inch or 16 x 1 3/8 size with the folding bead. This tire has all the specs I am looking for in a tire for my touring recumbent…fast, light and mostly puncture proof.
26 by 2.0 Marathon Supreme
My front tire has gone coast to coast across the USA without a single issue. Fully loaded - fully loaded 110 pound bike/load, plus my 185 pounds. That tour includes good pavement, bad pavement, heat/cold, dry/wet, grass, brushes, dirt, gravel, glass, truck tread pieces, dirt shoulders, and the paved shoulders before they were swept from winter’s cinders! It has over 5,700 miles on it and I would start the journey again with that same tire. In fact I am tired of looking at it… but then I remember its travels… It shows no evidence of rot or cracking in over two years of use!
The rear tire was replaced after a couple of thousand miles due to a severe ripping penetration caused by an arrowhead shaped piece of granite laid down by CO DOT from winter. I put in a new tube and it crossed another state before that tire “looked” bad and I replaced it, so I could lighten the load of the spare I was carrying. Other than that, it would have made the coast to coast trip as well. The second rear tire flattened due to a 1.5 inch roofing nail that was painted black and placed upright on the shoulder just two feet from the pavement’s edge. An obvious act of criminal vandalism! The nail went through the center and came out the side wall. Silly me, I pulled it out and it went flat. I replaced the tube and that tire is still in use. I would begin a tour with that tire knowing that it would eventually come apart and need replacing.
I have never been more satisfied with a bicycle tire in my life!
more narrow size
I ride a dahon mu p8 and have marathon racers on it size 20 X 1.5 will you make a more narrow version of this tire for higher speed riding maybe a 20 x 1.25 It seems this tire has great grip in wet and dry and I commute everyday in wet and dry conditions and was wondering which tire would be for faster commuting yet give me the advantages of protection and grip. Please advise.
commuting in nyc
Great touring tire
These tires are much faster than the Continentals I had on my touring bike. I rode on junk filled highways in Canada with 80 pounds in the panniers, others had flats, I didn’t. One day I inadvertently rode with inadquate tire pressure, no pinch flats. Great tire.
Marathon Supreme, which size to use?
Dear Schwalbe Team,
I would like to switch from my marathon plus to supremes for a tour with 15kg luggage on the back. My weight is 73kg, thus total 88kg. What would be the ideal size. I was thinking about the 700x32 and inflate them to 6bars. Roads are in Belgium-France, thus quite good asphalt.
PS. I have done 11,000km with my marathon plus for daily commuting, without any puncture! They are really indistructable.
Many thanks.
50mm - 406 ???
are there any plans to produce a 406x50mm Marathon Supreme?
especially for stiff 406-recumbent-rims a wider 50mm-version would be a great increase in comfort …
Thanks!
Dynamo Strip
I’m sorry to be so ignorant, however, I’ve never heard of a dynamo strip ?? What is it ?
A strip that is for a
A strip that is for a sidewall generator to run off
why no dynamo support?
Hello,
This looks like a good tire, faster rolling than some of the other marathons. But why doesn’t it have a dynamo strip? I really need a tire with that feature on my commuter/touring bike.
Is there a very similar tire with dynamo support?
Currently I’m using a Marathon Plus HS 348, but it’s slower and heavier than I like.
Thanks.
-A
Size recommendation
For general purpose road and rough road touring for a 190# rider plus some gear, would the 40cc be overkill? Would the 35cc be better? Trying to decide between the two. Thanks.
Both
I happen to have two sets - 35s and 40s. While swapping around between the two, I ended up with the 35 on front, and 40 on the rear. The best of both worlds. The 40 on the front kinda left the vague steering feel, and the 35 on the rear, was just tooooo harsh. I run them at the max of 85 PSI, for my 190# bulk.
The wrap around tread, and almost perfectly round profile, make for absolutely neutral handling, straight up, or leaned over.
I have them on a Specialized Crosstrail, and like the better ride and load capacity of the 40 on the rear, and the quicker, more sure footed 35 on the front (since the front carries less load, the harshness noticed in the rear, did not transfer…
My bike came with 45s as OEM, and this was an excellent switch.
Absolutely great tires, and the perfect mix.
And, the thing I’m happiest about —- I have another matched set for when replacement is needed.
Any other questions, feel free to contact me pjungels at yahoo dot com
A+
i have these in 26 X 2.0 and they are really fast! they are also extremely comfortable. i run them at 50psi
Outside Diameter
What is the outside diameter of the the 26x2.0 tire? Thanks in advance!
Expectations Met from 406 Supreme
I had high expectations for this pricier touring tire.
They were met. The first tour: No flats for all 900 km on all kinds of terrain, including glass-strewn city streets. On a fully-loaded folding bicyle.
I place a pretty high cost on dealing with flats on tour because they can really throw a wrench in your plans. Unexpected delays are always stressful. And a flat is not just a delay, it’s a full halt until it’s fixed, wherever and in whatever conditions. So paying more for a rock-solid tire is something I’ll not regret.
I only sometimes wished I could have rolled a little faster. 42mm is too wide for a strict road tire, but I did appreciate the extra traction when tackling some logging roads and unpaved paths in the Schwäbisch Alps. I would have walked so much more of the looser paths had I not had as wide a tire. As an occasional off-road, all-rounder touring tire, the Supremes truely shine.
Speed bars
Hey, Schwalbe Guy…
The Stelvio has four speed bars and the Supreme has five, but when I switched from Stelvios to Supremes I noticed a definite 2 mph drop. What do the speed bars mean and what are they comparing against? Thanks.
Bob
Tire Evaluation Charts
Hi Bob,
In order for you to compare tire characteristics more easily and quicker, we evaluated most tires in the categories of: Speed, Grip, Puncture Protection and Durability.
Different tires within each category; Touring / City, Off-Road, Road Racing, etc. are easily evaluated. However, tires from different categories cannot be compared. The charts are useful for comparing tires within a certain group/style of tires, but cannot be compared to every tire we offer, regardless of the category.
In your case, the Stelvio is a narrower, lighter and higher PSI road tire that is going to roll faster than a wider and heavier Touring/City tire. The Supreme is rated with 5 bars because it is one of the fastest tires in the Touring/City section.
Thanks,
Team Schwalbe
directional install ?
Does the Marathon Supreme have a certain direction of rotation or does it not mater how they are installed.
Keith
700x28c
Any plans to produce a 700x28c Marathon Supreme?
I need a 16" tire.
I have a Cannondale Bent I. It uses a 16” front tire. I purchase my tires in sets. I am excited about the Marathon Supreme HS 382 for my recumbent. Please let me know when you have a 16” tire for my front wheel, and I will order a set.
The When and Why Question - From a potential customer
Schwalbe products seem to be highly rated but I have some questions…
My questions are the following:
Why do we have to keep asking “when are the tires coming in” (this includes me)?
If this is supply and demand, why does it seem that supply can’t meet demand?
Does the company keep low supply to keep prices high (like Harley Davidson)?
Is it run by one person who has to do everything? *8^)
Of many of the US bike shops that sell Schwalbe, most don’t have the size I’m looking
for, or are just out of stock.
It’s OK to bash me on this, I just needed to ask the questions.
/J
Marathon Supreme shopping cart
Can I buy marathon supreme from this site
I buy online many products but I have problem to navigate and make a purchase on this site
I can’t purchase from dealer ,touring in Afghanistan right now
Thank you
Jacek
No need to “bash”,
No need to “bash”, J…there is an explanation for everything and asking is the only way to get answers. Thank you for asking.
The mass production of any product requires “timing”. If all of the elements of production are in perfect alignment, we see a flawless stream of goods. If one link in that chain is disrupted, we see “bottle necks”. SCHWALBE purchases only the highest quality raw materials that are sourced from the best suppliers in the world, but even those suppliers can run short from time to time. This is the case with the Marathon Supreme tires. The Ceramic used in the making of the puncture protection belt has been in short supply and as such, we have seen a disruption in production. The good news is that stock on the Marathon Supreme tires will arrive over the next two months and by June 20 we should be free of any further delays in delivery.
It might help to keep in mind, “Good things come to those who wait”…but knowing the facts helps too.
Thanks for your patience everyone and Happy Trails!
Team Schwalbe
June 20 date?
“…by June 20 free of delay.” Does this mean tires will be start leaving the factory or or about June 20, or that they will be in retail stores?
29 inch Supremes
When are you going to get 29 inches back in stock?
Smaller 700c Diameters
I too would love to see smaller 700x28c & 700x25c Marathon Supremes introduced. The 32 just won’t fit my single speed commuter/training bike. And the near slick design seems perfect for mostly asphalt riding.
Marathon Supreme
Hello out there……
Can you tell me when the 700x32 Supremes will be back in stock????
From; bigbearjim@hotmail.com
Supreme 32c
Hi,
Right now we don’t have a firm delivery date for more of the 700x32c Supremes. We are trying to get them in as fast as possible but there has been a slight delay in production. As soon as we have a firm date we will let you know.
Thanks,
Team Schwalbe
Faster than Plus?
Are 26x2 Supremes likely to result in a faster ride than 26x1.75 Plus tires?
Yes.
The marathon plus is a tire optimized for puncture protection at the expense of rolling resistance and comfort. Its a heavy, kind of sluggish tire that you could ride over a bed of broken bottles. The supreme uses some new technology for anti-puncture and road grip, so it is rated as faster than the plus and probably not as puncture proof.
2.35 inch width for a 29er
Please make the Marathon Supreme in a 2.35 width for a 29er bike for all road touring
Thanks
700x32
When are the 700x32c tires going to be back in stock?
next generation MARATHON SUPREME
The Marathon Supreme should be developed into a lighter version (similar weight to the Kojak or lighter) for greater speed, with the same tread and rubber compound as the existing Marathon Supreme for superior grip. The new tyre should not need to have the extra weight of puncture protection (270g heavier than the current Kojaks for example). It would be a tyre for those who want most of the characteristics of the Marathon Supreme but with extra grip. Perhaps it could be called the Marathon Ultra or GP. And definitely make it in 26 x 2.0 width - that’s a great width.
Keep the weight down for speed, and the grip levels up for aggressive on road cornering.